Things you need when you go offroading OR else
THIS WOULD HAPPEN TO YOU!
Basic Recovery gears should include
1) Snatch Straps
2) Gloves
3) Bow Shackles to attach the straps to your vehicle
Or buy the complete package
Basic Recovery Gear (RECOVERED)
Basic Recovery Gear (RECOVERED)
GV88 Wrote:
Things you need when you go offroading OR else
THIS WOULD HAPPEN TO YOU!
Basic Recovery gears should include
1) Snatch Straps
2) Gloves
3) Bow Shackles to attach the straps to your vehicle
Or buy the complete package
Things you need when you go offroading OR else
THIS WOULD HAPPEN TO YOU!
Basic Recovery gears should include
1) Snatch Straps
2) Gloves
3) Bow Shackles to attach the straps to your vehicle
Or buy the complete package
Re: Basic Recovery Gear (RECOVERED)
Cheesemaker wrote:
Accidents can happen very easily with this equipment, so be careful with its use. A vehicle's tie down loop is not very strong, perhaps look at other options before racing into a recovery. Also be aware of the onlookers remember the safety of the crowd, so push them back further.
Accidents can happen very easily with this equipment, so be careful with its use. A vehicle's tie down loop is not very strong, perhaps look at other options before racing into a recovery. Also be aware of the onlookers remember the safety of the crowd, so push them back further.
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I also read somewhere stating that snap straps should only be used for 6 recoveries and should be replaced.
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I also read somewhere stating that snap straps should only be used for 6 recoveries and should be replaced.
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V6DelicaV6 wrote:
I also read somewhere stating that snap straps should only be used for 6 recoveries and should be replaced.
I wonder if it would depend on the type of recovery, most of the recoveries I have been involved in have been gently gently types with no real sudden impacts or excess strain.
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V6DelicaV6 wrote:
I also read somewhere stating that snap straps should only be used for 6 recoveries and should be replaced.
I wonder if it would depend on the type of recovery, most of the recoveries I have been involved in have been gently gently types with no real sudden impacts or excess strain.
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dipmaker wrote:
V6DelicaV6 wrote:
I also read somewhere stating that snap straps should only be used for 6 recoveries and should be replaced.
I wonder if it would depend on the type of recovery, most of the recoveries I have been involved in have been gently gently types with no real sudden impacts or excess strain.
I think your right Steve, I've also heard discard after one use, I've also heard after 20 uses, but if they are gentle tugs with the odd big one, providing they don't show excessive wear I would be confident in using them well past these times we have all given. The amount of times I get recovered I would be broke if I had to replace them to often. In this case it is not common sense to use or not to use it is experience.
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We all hear and read about the dangers of recovery points and shackles failing,but what sought of damage can be caused by a strap alone!Well last weekend at our clubs annual mud gymkhana an 8metre snatch strap let go whilst recovering a well bogged hundred series and went straight through its back window and if it were not for a rear cargo barrier, it probably would of gone out the front window too!
Frightened the crap out of me,and I was 100meters away!Fortunately nobody was injured ,other than a passenger in the 100 series who was showered with glass and needed her eyes flushed with saline.
There were some sobering lessons learned and a few reminders of how dangerous vehicle recovery can be.
1 Even with dampers straps are lethal.
2 Do not over load your recovery gear(The 100 sries was bogged to deep to snatch and some digging and jacking to reduce the suction and a double line pull on the winch was a wiser course of action)
3 No passengers ever!
4 How many recoveries and how old are your straps.
5 Stop and have a cuppa tea and think clearly about what needs to be done,dont be in a rush.
Please feel if you have had similar experiences to add your comments,it would be interesting to here what happened and how common these failures are.
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The ARB guys and girls in Perth were the sponsors of our mud gymkhana, and I believe took a great deal of interest in the snatch failure,might see some photos to help plug their product.(Which look pretty good).Looks like we're going to ditch all our clubs current straps and replace them with the highest load rated straps we can get(probably supplied by a generous company i.e.ARB Perth)which we will number and log the age,number of recoveries and difficulty i.e.low medium high.
Seems to be quite a few incidents involving Nissans snatching Landcruisers out of trouble!Might be something in this?Mmmm...
Keep these stories coming,this is absolute "gold".
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The ARB guys and girls in Perth were the sponsors of our mud gymkhana, and I believe took a great deal of interest in the snatch failure,might see some photos to help plug their product.(Which look pretty good).Looks like we're going to ditch all our clubs current straps and replace them with the highest load rated straps we can get(probably supplied by a generous company i.e.ARB Perth)which we will number and log the age,number of recoveries and difficulty i.e.low medium high.
Seems to be quite a few incidents involving Nissans snatching Landcruisers out of trouble!Might be something in this?Mmmm...
Keep these stories coming,this is absolute "gold".
DON'T DO THIS - "...replace them with the highest load rated straps..." - DON'T DO THIS!
**ULTRA DANGEROUS!!**
Bigger and heavier rated straps are for BIGGER VEHICLES, NOT for bigger recoveries. If you use the biggest, heaviest rated strap that you can find on a vehicle that is smaller than that strap warrants, then the greatest risk is that you will just rip parts of the bogged or recovery cars right off instead of successfully recovering vehicles! Select a snatch strap for using with your car based upon 2.5 - 3 times the rated GVM of the vehicle; ie 2 tonne Hilux's shouldn't ever use a higher rated stap than a 6 tonne snatch strap; while 3 tonne Patrol's or LandCruiser's shouldn't look past the 9 tonne snatch straps. Straps heavier than those are for HEAVIER VEHICLES like F250, Canter's, etc.
With a heavier strap, you need more weight (mass) in the vehicles involved to help the recovering car put the appropriate amount of potential energy into the strap - lighter cars aren't heavy enough to do that, so the strap acts sorta like a chain will - ALL the shock load & energy goes into the vehicle components, not into the strap as potential energy. That usually ends up with parts of cars being ripped off - big and expensive parts too! It is for exactly the same reason that you don't try to snatch vehicles out with chains!!
BTW, Chains are not safe to use at all in snatch operations, and really not that good for towing, either; they are majorly risky because you simply cannot tell without meticulous inspections exactly what damage has been done to any or all of the links; just a single knick in as few as one link can reduce the overall strength of the chain to well below what is safe for the recovery or tow being attampted and you'll end up with a chain flying around at speeds up to 200 km/h on the end of a 8 or 10 metre strap - NOT GOOD!
Regarding shackles, rated bow or 'D' shackles are the only shackles that you should ever consider using in a snatch recovery, but if you have rated Hooks that allow you to safely rig for the recovery without using a shackle, then use them and you have further reduced the potential for fast flying hazards! Even rated shackles can end up with the strap pulling across the shackle in the wrong direction, putting the massive stresses onto parts of the shackle that were never intended to support those loads, and consequently the shackle can fail, potentially leaving IT flying thru the air at speeds up to 200 km/h on the end of a 8 -10m strap. If you MUST use a shackle, at least attempt to ensure that the loop or bow of the shackle is always aimed directly along the line of recovery, and that the pull will be as close as possible to directly 90 degrees from the axis of the pin. Anything else will be presenting an obscenely high risk of failure!
Using a proper load dampener (of any type) will significantly reduce the potential for the high flying hazards, even a Drizabone draped across the strap will tend to keep the strap DOWN, so that if all onlookers are well clear (at least 1.5 times the length of the straps) then they shouldn't be exposed to too much risk, and the only two people within that range should be inside the vehicles, any loose or broken straps will tend to keep low and UNDER the vehicles! But if you have a chain that you can dedicate to load limiting or drag chain uses, connecting that securely by BOTH ends to the same section on the snatch strap, 1/2rd way along the strap, and laying the loop of the chain in the direction of the intended movement, then that will work better than just about anything else, short of 2 such chains, placed 1/3rd of the way from each vehicle with the loop of chain extended towards the other vehicle. Alternately, using dedicated safety straps connected to other rated recovery hooks on each vehicle is a good option. Regardless, ANY reasonable form of strap dampening is going to be beneficial in the case of things going wrong!
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most good quality straps have wear indicators near the loops at each end. I inspect mine every few weeks or months depending how many times i have used them and i never put mine away dirty or wet
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I used the worn ones to snatch Landys.
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I used the worn ones to snatch Landys.
Do you mean "corgi crunchers"?
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Has anyone used or witnessed anyone recovered by the new snatch straps without shackles? I've read them in the 4wd magazines but don't seem to be able find the article. Basically my question is, are they any good and how safe is it?
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dipmaker wrote:
V6DelicaV6 wrote:
I also read somewhere stating that snap straps should only be used for 6 recoveries and should be replaced.
I wonder if it would depend on the type of recovery, most of the recoveries I have been involved in have been gently gently types with no real sudden impacts or excess strain.
I think your right Steve, I've also heard discard after one use, I've also heard after 20 uses, but if they are gentle tugs with the odd big one, providing they don't show excessive wear I would be confident in using them well past these times we have all given. The amount of times I get recovered I would be broke if I had to replace them to often. In this case it is not common sense to use or not to use it is experience.
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We all hear and read about the dangers of recovery points and shackles failing,but what sought of damage can be caused by a strap alone!Well last weekend at our clubs annual mud gymkhana an 8metre snatch strap let go whilst recovering a well bogged hundred series and went straight through its back window and if it were not for a rear cargo barrier, it probably would of gone out the front window too!
Frightened the crap out of me,and I was 100meters away!Fortunately nobody was injured ,other than a passenger in the 100 series who was showered with glass and needed her eyes flushed with saline.
There were some sobering lessons learned and a few reminders of how dangerous vehicle recovery can be.
1 Even with dampers straps are lethal.
2 Do not over load your recovery gear(The 100 sries was bogged to deep to snatch and some digging and jacking to reduce the suction and a double line pull on the winch was a wiser course of action)
3 No passengers ever!
4 How many recoveries and how old are your straps.
5 Stop and have a cuppa tea and think clearly about what needs to be done,dont be in a rush.
Please feel if you have had similar experiences to add your comments,it would be interesting to here what happened and how common these failures are.
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The ARB guys and girls in Perth were the sponsors of our mud gymkhana, and I believe took a great deal of interest in the snatch failure,might see some photos to help plug their product.(Which look pretty good).Looks like we're going to ditch all our clubs current straps and replace them with the highest load rated straps we can get(probably supplied by a generous company i.e.ARB Perth)which we will number and log the age,number of recoveries and difficulty i.e.low medium high.
Seems to be quite a few incidents involving Nissans snatching Landcruisers out of trouble!Might be something in this?Mmmm...
Keep these stories coming,this is absolute "gold".
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The ARB guys and girls in Perth were the sponsors of our mud gymkhana, and I believe took a great deal of interest in the snatch failure,might see some photos to help plug their product.(Which look pretty good).Looks like we're going to ditch all our clubs current straps and replace them with the highest load rated straps we can get(probably supplied by a generous company i.e.ARB Perth)which we will number and log the age,number of recoveries and difficulty i.e.low medium high.
Seems to be quite a few incidents involving Nissans snatching Landcruisers out of trouble!Might be something in this?Mmmm...
Keep these stories coming,this is absolute "gold".
DON'T DO THIS - "...replace them with the highest load rated straps..." - DON'T DO THIS!
**ULTRA DANGEROUS!!**
Bigger and heavier rated straps are for BIGGER VEHICLES, NOT for bigger recoveries. If you use the biggest, heaviest rated strap that you can find on a vehicle that is smaller than that strap warrants, then the greatest risk is that you will just rip parts of the bogged or recovery cars right off instead of successfully recovering vehicles! Select a snatch strap for using with your car based upon 2.5 - 3 times the rated GVM of the vehicle; ie 2 tonne Hilux's shouldn't ever use a higher rated stap than a 6 tonne snatch strap; while 3 tonne Patrol's or LandCruiser's shouldn't look past the 9 tonne snatch straps. Straps heavier than those are for HEAVIER VEHICLES like F250, Canter's, etc.
With a heavier strap, you need more weight (mass) in the vehicles involved to help the recovering car put the appropriate amount of potential energy into the strap - lighter cars aren't heavy enough to do that, so the strap acts sorta like a chain will - ALL the shock load & energy goes into the vehicle components, not into the strap as potential energy. That usually ends up with parts of cars being ripped off - big and expensive parts too! It is for exactly the same reason that you don't try to snatch vehicles out with chains!!
BTW, Chains are not safe to use at all in snatch operations, and really not that good for towing, either; they are majorly risky because you simply cannot tell without meticulous inspections exactly what damage has been done to any or all of the links; just a single knick in as few as one link can reduce the overall strength of the chain to well below what is safe for the recovery or tow being attampted and you'll end up with a chain flying around at speeds up to 200 km/h on the end of a 8 or 10 metre strap - NOT GOOD!
Regarding shackles, rated bow or 'D' shackles are the only shackles that you should ever consider using in a snatch recovery, but if you have rated Hooks that allow you to safely rig for the recovery without using a shackle, then use them and you have further reduced the potential for fast flying hazards! Even rated shackles can end up with the strap pulling across the shackle in the wrong direction, putting the massive stresses onto parts of the shackle that were never intended to support those loads, and consequently the shackle can fail, potentially leaving IT flying thru the air at speeds up to 200 km/h on the end of a 8 -10m strap. If you MUST use a shackle, at least attempt to ensure that the loop or bow of the shackle is always aimed directly along the line of recovery, and that the pull will be as close as possible to directly 90 degrees from the axis of the pin. Anything else will be presenting an obscenely high risk of failure!
Using a proper load dampener (of any type) will significantly reduce the potential for the high flying hazards, even a Drizabone draped across the strap will tend to keep the strap DOWN, so that if all onlookers are well clear (at least 1.5 times the length of the straps) then they shouldn't be exposed to too much risk, and the only two people within that range should be inside the vehicles, any loose or broken straps will tend to keep low and UNDER the vehicles! But if you have a chain that you can dedicate to load limiting or drag chain uses, connecting that securely by BOTH ends to the same section on the snatch strap, 1/2rd way along the strap, and laying the loop of the chain in the direction of the intended movement, then that will work better than just about anything else, short of 2 such chains, placed 1/3rd of the way from each vehicle with the loop of chain extended towards the other vehicle. Alternately, using dedicated safety straps connected to other rated recovery hooks on each vehicle is a good option. Regardless, ANY reasonable form of strap dampening is going to be beneficial in the case of things going wrong!
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most good quality straps have wear indicators near the loops at each end. I inspect mine every few weeks or months depending how many times i have used them and i never put mine away dirty or wet
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I used the worn ones to snatch Landys.
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I used the worn ones to snatch Landys.
Do you mean "corgi crunchers"?
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Has anyone used or witnessed anyone recovered by the new snatch straps without shackles? I've read them in the 4wd magazines but don't seem to be able find the article. Basically my question is, are they any good and how safe is it?
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edly
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GV88 wrote:
Has anyone used or witnessed anyone recovered by the new snatch straps without shackles? I've read them in the 4wd magazines but don't seem to be able find the article. Basically my question is, are they any good and how safe is it?
New snatch straps?
Haven't seen or heard of them, will have to check them out.
Who makes them?
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It works like a normal strap except rather than attaching a shackles to the strap for attachment to the vehicle. there are loops within the straps for wrapping the end of the strap through.
I came across it in one of my many 4wd mags but can't locate the article now. i believe it was used my Roothy in a recent video.
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FOUND IT!
It's the staun Snatch Strap. Here is the link.
http://www.staunproducts.com/superstrap.php
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I know it must work for them to advertise it, but it looks extremely bodgy. Safe as there is only a nylon strapping etc, but bodgy
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yes that was my initial impression. However I think the product would have undergone rigorous testing.
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The idea with that strap is after you loop it through your recovery point you then feed it back through the loops in the strap about 5 or so times and as you take tension the strap obviously gets tight and stops the loose end coming free.
If you dont understand what im saying take a piece of telecom rope and make a loop in the end and then feed the loose piece back through the rope itself about 5 times then hook it onto something and watch how it all binds together and restricts the rope from pulling out.
The next strap i will buy will more than likely be 1 of the new straps for the reason of no shackles involved
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If you dont understand what im saying take a piece of telecom rope and make a loop in the end and then feed the loose piece back through the rope itself about 5 times then hook it onto something and watch how it all binds together and restricts the rope from pulling out.
Actually I'm REALLY confused...Can you elaborate?
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if you go to this link and pay carefull attention to step 2 and you will see what im talking about
http://www.staunproducts.com/superstrap.php
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Thanks, read it but still lost, Can you explain it again in a much simpler descriptions.
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well basically you take a piece of rope and make a loop at 1 end and then thread it back through the rope which in doing that you will have to untwirl the rope and there really isnt and easy way to explain it.
Remind me the next time i meet you to show you with a piece of rope and you will understand
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It's exactly the same as the age old and proven method of splicing which has been used for thousands of years, not rocket science.
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thanks steve and thats the word i was looking for and i think its mainly used in the boating industry
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As "dipmaker" puts it, it's not rocket science.
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I think I'll wait until the Super Show in June to check them out.
I wonder how easy they would be to release after a recovery?
I'n not sure that they are a snatch strap, might only be suitable for straight (dead) pulls.
I've just had another look at the web page, I'm sure they are only a towing strap, could possible be used as a winch extension starp.
I believe they are definately NOT a snatch strap.
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we had this rope brought up at the meeting this one dose seem a bit different to the one used at janowen hills weekend. but i think give people some more information on it and let them make up their own mind about it.
here is the manufactures website in the USA
http://www.masterpull.com/cpage.cfm?cpid=425
interestingly they have an australian website but they don't officially import into australia that rope
http://www.wildernesswinches.com.au/mp.htm
another manufacturer
http://www.winchline.com/towlines.htm
a bit of history on the rope
http://www.janes.com/articles/Janes-Mil ... ngdom.html
if you need any more info google; KERR, kinetic recovery rope, yanker recovery rope, super yanker
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GV88 wrote:
Has anyone used or witnessed anyone recovered by the new snatch straps without shackles? I've read them in the 4wd magazines but don't seem to be able find the article. Basically my question is, are they any good and how safe is it?
New snatch straps?
Haven't seen or heard of them, will have to check them out.
Who makes them?
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It works like a normal strap except rather than attaching a shackles to the strap for attachment to the vehicle. there are loops within the straps for wrapping the end of the strap through.
I came across it in one of my many 4wd mags but can't locate the article now. i believe it was used my Roothy in a recent video.
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FOUND IT!
It's the staun Snatch Strap. Here is the link.
http://www.staunproducts.com/superstrap.php
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I know it must work for them to advertise it, but it looks extremely bodgy. Safe as there is only a nylon strapping etc, but bodgy
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yes that was my initial impression. However I think the product would have undergone rigorous testing.
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The idea with that strap is after you loop it through your recovery point you then feed it back through the loops in the strap about 5 or so times and as you take tension the strap obviously gets tight and stops the loose end coming free.
If you dont understand what im saying take a piece of telecom rope and make a loop in the end and then feed the loose piece back through the rope itself about 5 times then hook it onto something and watch how it all binds together and restricts the rope from pulling out.
The next strap i will buy will more than likely be 1 of the new straps for the reason of no shackles involved
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If you dont understand what im saying take a piece of telecom rope and make a loop in the end and then feed the loose piece back through the rope itself about 5 times then hook it onto something and watch how it all binds together and restricts the rope from pulling out.
Actually I'm REALLY confused...Can you elaborate?
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if you go to this link and pay carefull attention to step 2 and you will see what im talking about
http://www.staunproducts.com/superstrap.php
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GV88
Posted: 11 Apr 2009 08:29 pm
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Thanks, read it but still lost, Can you explain it again in a much simpler descriptions.
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maverick01
Posted: 12 Apr 2009 08:37 am
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well basically you take a piece of rope and make a loop at 1 end and then thread it back through the rope which in doing that you will have to untwirl the rope and there really isnt and easy way to explain it.
Remind me the next time i meet you to show you with a piece of rope and you will understand
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dipmaker
Posted: 12 Apr 2009 11:34 am
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It's exactly the same as the age old and proven method of splicing which has been used for thousands of years, not rocket science.
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maverick01
Posted: 12 Apr 2009 12:23 pm
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thanks steve and thats the word i was looking for and i think its mainly used in the boating industry
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GV88
Posted: 12 Apr 2009 05:01 pm
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As "dipmaker" puts it, it's not rocket science.
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Nedly
Posted: 15 Apr 2009 12:48 pm
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I think I'll wait until the Super Show in June to check them out.
I wonder how easy they would be to release after a recovery?
I'n not sure that they are a snatch strap, might only be suitable for straight (dead) pulls.
I've just had another look at the web page, I'm sure they are only a towing strap, could possible be used as a winch extension starp.
I believe they are definately NOT a snatch strap.
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bundera boy
Posted: 19 Apr 2009 10:19 pm
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we had this rope brought up at the meeting this one dose seem a bit different to the one used at janowen hills weekend. but i think give people some more information on it and let them make up their own mind about it.
here is the manufactures website in the USA
http://www.masterpull.com/cpage.cfm?cpid=425
interestingly they have an australian website but they don't officially import into australia that rope
http://www.wildernesswinches.com.au/mp.htm
another manufacturer
http://www.winchline.com/towlines.htm
a bit of history on the rope
http://www.janes.com/articles/Janes-Mil ... ngdom.html
if you need any more info google; KERR, kinetic recovery rope, yanker recovery rope, super yanker
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